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Cube 
June 11, 2009 at 8:22 pm |
Open thread? Don’t mind if I do…
latest list of insults towards Obama…
starting with Voight
false prophet
“god-like”
Putin….
crazy ass fools…when are they gonna tire of slitting their own throats?
June 11, 2009 at 9:00 pm |
Since this is an open thread. You stink ATT. These dips screwed up my DSL for the third time in months. I’m calling Direct TV. I’m on dial up right now. They are low-grade morons.
June 11, 2009 at 9:19 pm |
yikes Cube…I have ATT also.
June 11, 2009 at 10:56 pm |
Ok, gonna have a big O on this Open Thread:
(pulls up soapbox)
Ive been watching the news coverage of the murder yesterday of Officer Johns, the man who was killed opening the door for his killer. Shot in the heart, by a monster that has no heart. And what strikes me, is he was killed, being kind and respectful, the very things that the murderer, probably felt as if he wasn’t afforded often enough, but here he had it, right before his eyes. This monster, filled with all the rage that a person can muster, finally acted on his thoughts and emotions. I place the responsibility for this hineous action at his feet, however, how much of the hate talk, and lies of late, affected him to a point, where he felt he had no other choice, the time was here, to do something. And something he did.
I watched/heard Limbilk call this man a “liberal”, because after all, its the liberals who display this this behaviour, only the left spreads the hate. My moral compass tells me, that this jackass is full of shit, but what about all the others like Brunns out there, just waiting for just enough to make them pop? At what point, do we insist that those making a living from spewing such vile verbal vommit, take responsibility for their words and actions? Free speech. Who would have thought it would come to this….
I have no issue with the opposing side, taking up the debate over policy, but to constantly fan the flames of all these fringe issues, such as birthcertificate, religious pref., socialist, hates whitey, queer (oldie, surprised its not hit on more often), and the list goes on and on, hell, its added to almost daily!
Im blown away, at the level of deceit passed around by some really important folks…I don’t get that, whatever happened to integrity and just being a good person? I used to admire my political leaders. I cannot phathom how we got here.
What ever happened to slander? Isn’t it against the law to do so?
All I know is, something has got to give, and I fear alot of days like the few we have been having of late. Many of us here that have been surfing the blogs have seen it coming, the “fringe”. And we must apologize for reconizing it….humph…typical, slight of hand by the “right”
“Look over here….don’t look at what we are really doing right there, but look over here at this situation we have just created for your shocking pleasure.”
I’ll be glad, when someone in the Republican party, grows some balls, and stands up to their crazy assed self righteous base, and stops apologizing to Limbaugh for trying to become reasonable.
(steps off of soap box)
Thank You!
June 11, 2009 at 11:06 pm |
Oh and…
that Brunn guy better be glad Im not a nurse…
I’d kink his air hose….whisper in his ear…That Im a black Jewish lesbian that just had an abortion and that Im secretly from Kenya.
That’ll flat line his ass realllllll nice like…
Focusing on instant Karma…..
Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
June 13, 2009 at 9:19 am |
you laugh michelle,
but the law of probability says that such a person fitting that description must exist, or have existed, or will exist.
June 12, 2009 at 12:00 am |
Michelle,
Move over on that soapbox. My turn.
It is all well and good to blame incidents like the Holocaust Museum shooting on the right wing, Republicans and Rush Limbaugh. But, to be fair, the venom, vitriol and rush to hate have not been a monologue or one-sided conversation. If Limbaugh, O’Reilly and Hannity must take responsibility, then Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and Rachael Maddow must also step up to the plate and say some “mea culpas”.
In 2001. Bush came to the White House proudly proclaiming that he was a uniter. In 2009, Obama did the same. Yet, today the country is more divided, the schism between opposing political views greater, than at any time in my 66 years. If blame must be assigned (and it seems that’s how we function nowadays) then lay it where it belongs. And that is on each and every individual personally. The climate of hate that dominates cable television doesn’t do so because there is a vacuum. Television is a business. If so called liberals didn’t tune in, agree and send love notes to MSNBC, their talking heads would be fired. Likewise, FOX would cease to exist if so called conservatives tuned out.
When I was growing up, my parents had certain rules we had to live by. If Dan Rather, John Cameron Swayze or Chet Huntley ran a piece that said a good way to cool off in the summer was to go outside and play in the mud, no one actually went out and played in the mud. We knew if we did, our parents wouldn’t give a tinkers damn who suggested it. We were told not to do it and that was that. It was our responsibility to observe their rules and it was our backsides that got tanned if we didn’t. As a society, we have certain laws and expectations that we will treat everyone in a civilized manner. When one of us fails to do so, it is ridiculous to say that so and so behaved badly because someone on a cable talk show told them to do so. If and until people return to accepting responsibility for their own acts and, until society expects them to do so without everyone jumping on the bandwagon and saying the devil (whoever you perceive the devil to be) made them do so, we can expect more and more of these kinds of unacceptable and evil acts. We need to stop blaming an industry, a political party and our neighbor and start expecting, make that demanding, better of our fellow citizens.
OK. I’m done. Soapbox is now available for someone else to use.
June 12, 2009 at 12:26 am |
Peggy, I totally agree both sides should be held accountable, but I have not heard the same types of things out of those that you mentioned.
and Im not speaking of just “normal” Republicans either, when I say right wing, Im meaning the extreme.
I did say, that I put the responsiblity at Brunn’s feet. And Im not saying, he did it because of the talking heads, but one has to wonder, if it is a catalyst for things to progress.
And obviously…folks are getting in the mud these days! LOL…some crazy fools out there, that will do just about anything, because “rush said so”…I hear that man quoted almost every day around where I live, and they use what he says, as a basis for their opinion. Im just noticing how things have changed, and yes, it does seem as though its gotten worse now that Obama has won the WH….makes me wonder, just exactly why all the discourse, is it because of his skin color?? I hope not, but it sure seems that way sometimes. I don’t think we can blame Obama for this division, that is not what he sought to do, but it sure is how some are reacting to it.
Thanks for the response, Peggy…its nice to have just a nice debate!
June 12, 2009 at 1:34 am |
por favor,
it’s all the republican’s fault, don’t even try to drag rachel maddow into this. all she does is make fun of what republicans already did,
but on to other news:
cher’s daughter by sonny bono, is getting a sex change operation.
June 12, 2009 at 1:47 am |
Saw that, Louie. Chastity is now Chaz. There’s a long road ahead for him. I think it’s a very brave thing to do and wish him a long, happy life.
June 12, 2009 at 11:38 pm
hahahah yeah peggy,
who woulda thought when they first saw sonny and cher on (what was it?) lloyd paxton/rod bernard/ dick clark/ed sullivan… that they would end up in the news like this.
she used to hang out at a house on esplanade and make the news all the time for what we thought then, was outrageous.
hahahahhahah
June 12, 2009 at 2:05 am |
Hi, Michelle,
It is nice to just talk, isn’t it. I guess because I’m a moderate with no horse in the race, I listen to things or hear them differently. I still hold both sides accountable but stick to the argument that it is ultimately the individual who has to answer for his/her actions.
I wasn’t making the point that President Obama was a divider. Simply that, for some reason, people are becoming much more divided. Or, at least, they are certainly more vocal about it. While I would like to think race has nothing to do with it, even I’m not that naive. I guess as long as there are people, there will be those that think anyone who looks different, acts different or has a different set of ideas must be dealt with in a harsh manner. If you haven’t done so recently, check out Daily Dose. Alex wrote a cool and very articulate piece about just that subject.
In a way, I envy those of you who are passionate on both sides of the political aisle. I can only recall three elections in my long memory where I absolutely committed to a candidate and felt the world would only be better if they ran the country. The first two were JFK and Bobby Kennedy. I cried with the rest of the nation and the world when their young lifes were cut short so cruelly. It took forty years for me to do that again. My choice in 2008 was Hilary and when she withdrew from the race, I returned to my moderate leanings.
Over the years, I have felt that I must support whoever our President was until that person proved they didn’t deserve the commitment (think Nixon).
You raised an interesting point about slander. Maybe Cube, with his legal background and sharp mind, could weigh in on that one. My gut tells me that, as long as they make it clear that this is an opinion based on nothing, or couch it in terms of repeating comments they read somewhere or someone else said first, they can walk away with no legal consequences. I could be blowing smoke BUT they do get away with some outrageous stuff and are still out there talking crap. There has to be some sort of protection in place for them.
Cube, you started this thing with your open thread. Help us out here.
June 12, 2009 at 7:57 am |
In 2001. Bush came to the White House proudly proclaiming that he was a uniter. In 2009, Obama did the same.
_______________________________
Peggy –
This happened because, when each of these presidents claimed to be the uniter, their respective opposition responded with “The hell you are!”. Neither was given a chance, but I am not sure either deserved a chance. Politics is about debate which, supposedly, slows rash action and knee-jerk [emphasis on jerk] reaction.
Sometimes I think we would be much better off if all congressional proceedings did grind to a halt in gridlock. To hell with uniting. It seems that every time congress compromises to take any kind of action we the people get taken for 100s of billions of dollars … and a little more freedom.
June 12, 2009 at 8:41 am |
OKAY. My turn on the ol’ soap box …
Michelle Says:
June 12, 2009 at 12:26 am | Reply
And Im not saying, he did it because of the talking heads, but one has to wonder, if it is a catalyst for things to progress.
________________________________
Michelle – You do to blame the talking heads for Brunn-like actions. Here is what you said over at Tommy’s site:
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Comment by Michelle on June 11, 2009 7:35 pm
OH yes we can blame the Right for murder…its YOUR right talking heads that keep fanning the flames of hate.
I don’t hear it from the left, in fact, I don’t recall talk like this from the left.
It is what it is, Splash.
The right peddels hate for the most part, and until the masses stand up to the likes of Rush and company…it will remain as such.
*******************
Let me remind you: “It’s not God bless America, but God Damn America”.
How about Jesse Jackson when he thinks his mic is off??
Read almost anything from Louis Farrakhan.
Have you ever listened to Randi Rhodes on Air America?? How about just listening to Air America for your daily dose of hate speech from the left.
And Rush’s show that you listened to said [paraphrase]: If you want to hear hate-speak, listen to MSNBC. It is hate-speak from the left 24/7/365. And it is.
When can we expect the masses (left) to stand up to them? To stop defending them?? Anytime now … Right? I mean, left?
We are all Americans from folks on the left, to folks in the middle like you (although sometimes I wonder), Peggy and PCL, to the folks YOU hate (yes, Michelle, I’m sorry to point it out, but apparently YOU hate too). But this is what we have come to expect from the left, the shirking of personal responsibility. To shed blame for anyone’s actions, even slightly, onto anything that someone else said is an attempt to politically break down the foundation of freedom that free speech creates in this country. That you blame free speech at all (“Free speech. Who would have thought it would come to this….”) when a majority of our access to it is so incredibly dominated by the left is, at best, appalling.
Tell me, Michelle, if some nut killed Rush Limbaugh because they read your hate speech, would we be right (or should I say ‘left’) to blame you for the killers actions? Or even Rush’s words? Would you accept some of the responsibility for the killing? Derive a certain satisfaction from it? Or maybe, just maybe we should do the right, scratch that, correct thing and hold the nut case 100% responsible for their actions.
What you are dangerously close to saying is that “He told me to do it!” is a legitimate defense for hatred and murder inflicted on our fellow [wo]man. Do you really believe that? Surly not.
Okay, I’m done.
disclaimer: the previous post by Splash is in no way intended as hate speech, nor does it represent the views and/or opinions of the blog writer and/or other commentors. Blog writer and/or other commentors not responsible for the actions against other by others that may misconstrue said comment as an encouragement to direct hatred or bring harm to any other individual/entity. Comment not valid with any other comments. Comment subject to change at any time. Editing/deletion of said comment subject to approval and may or may not invalidate the original non-hateful intent of the comment in question.
PS -Michelle, remember, it is just a debate. I love you (wo)man!
June 12, 2009 at 6:40 pm |
Well, Splash, I know what I said, and I also know what I mean by my words,
If you will read back in my post, you will see what I mean, when I say “right”, meaning the radicals, and yes, I see Rush as a radical.
My hate speech? Do tell….to me, hate speech is words that are not true, and slanderous. To tell the truth, if its the actions of another in which I speak, to me, is not hate speech.
The twisting and lying of the radical right ( let me be more specific, since I did not arm myself with a disclaimer), has added fuel to the fire. Can I be certain that it was Rush or Hannity that set Brunn off? No, I cannot, but I maintain, it can’t help.
You say MSNBC is hate 24-7-365… thats strikes me as funny…because I see them pointing out things that the radical right has said, and they back it up with footage, and they point out how wrong it is.
Its not like they sit on the air and make claims like the ones that Hannity, Rush and of the like do.
Sorry, not buying it Splash
and yeah…much love to you my brotha…
June 12, 2009 at 8:44 am |
Peggy –
I imagine that the reason politicians don’t sue for slander/libel is because a counter suit for slander/libel would be a sure thing [and probably justified].
June 12, 2009 at 9:03 am |
that all sounds good until one remembers that bachman called for armed revolution.
June 12, 2009 at 10:39 am |
It not only sounds good, it is good and the precise quote from Bachmann is:
“I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous ON THIS ISSUE of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing, and the people — we the people — are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country. And I think this has the potential of changing the dynamic of freedom forever in the United States.”
Caps added so you won’t miss it this time. Your intellectual dishonesty is quite apparent, Louie, and Minnesotans (or anyone) who get “pick up guns and start blasting” from what Bachmann said is either responsible for their own individual actions or they are a liberal like you who wants to pretend that he is a “right winged” Minnesotan taking up arms thanks to Bachmann.
Here is my favorite twist of her words: “Rep. Michele Bachmann has sump’m to say, she does! She wants everyone to get a gun and go kill the Democrats and establish a new government, because of some tax.”
http://wonkette.com/407198/michele-bachmann-calls-for-armed-revolution
This is total bullshit twisty spin and you, Louie, are a grand part of the masterful scheme; a pawn on their board; a cog in their wheel; fuel for their fire. Each night you and The Big O’s army of O-bots religiously and obediently plug your brain into your boob tube and download the latest O-botic programming to puke out en masse on forums like this.
Temporarily accepting your boneheaded premise that “hate-speak” leads to “hate-action”, I wonder if these kooks are reacting to what the talking heads say or to what mind numb O-botic spinsters like you tell people they said. C’mon, Louie, unplug yourself. It’s your brain; Take control of it! There are plenty of reasons to oppose the GOP; there is no need to regurgitate a twisted perversion of the truth in order to do so. Leave the GOP to their own destruction. They are doing just fine on their own.
Just trying to help out.
June 12, 2009 at 3:54 pm |
so what you’re saying is that she was calling for armed revolution.
ain’t no way around it.
but hey, it’s a free country.
June 12, 2009 at 6:39 pm |
No, what I was saying, in a much nicer way, is that you’re a bonehead. But let me be more frank …
… YOU, Louie, are a bonehead.
June 12, 2009 at 10:29 pm |
gee, “armed and dangerous” and “revolution” seem to have alternate definitions to you that other people who speak english were previously unaware of.
in context : “ON THIS ISSUE” is the pretext for said mayhem.
June 12, 2009 at 6:44 pm |
Splash, what exactly does ARMED and DANGEROUS mean to you…even with the words ON THIS ISSUE trailing behind them?
What does revolution mean in this context, to you?
Now, think like a radical misguided nutjob…what do you think, someone who is already predisposed to violence would think of this, a green light maybe, in some twisted way?
Yes, ultimatly we are all responsible for our own actions, but does the crazy talk, bare some responsibility in this?
June 12, 2009 at 10:56 pm |
It amazes me, Louie
how different folks, can hear and comprehend different things out of the same words…
It kinda proves the point, that words do matter in some cases at least.
June 12, 2009 at 11:16 pm |
yeah michelle,
personally as a uber conservative and racist, I definitely heard bachman tell me to get my gun and get fixin’ to start a revolution.
all my gun fan friends and military acquaintences heard her say the same thing.
I sht U not.
you oughta hear what guys say when it’s just us white guys.
June 12, 2009 at 11:06 pm |
Cube, you must be an inspiration to some out there in blogland:
WADE….
10:15PM Jun 12th 2009
Obama said he’s saving jobs and money……Do you believe?
http://wadesayswhat.wordpress.com/
Gotta give him a good solid long slow clap on this, way to go WADE…
Everybody stand.
WADE
WADE
WADE
WADE
!
!
!
June 12, 2009 at 11:24 pm |
just unbelievable michelle,
just clicked on those videos.
do any of these neocons ever have the balls to just go ahead ans pay for their medical proceedures themselves out of their own pockets?
NO- they want to be insured so that they don’t have to pay full price for anything, but they expect to pick and chose like marie antoinette at an all you can eat buffet.
they expect our premiums to go up, so that they can live on twinkies and soda in front of TV.
did you hear rush going on about health nuts straining the system because of their athletic injuries?
and how it’s better to be sedimetary and fat, so that you won’t accidently get injured in sports.
aahahhahahahhahahah
June 12, 2009 at 11:25 pm
call spellcheck and get me a stenographer.
June 12, 2009 at 11:28 pm |
You mean to tell me our baby, WADE, has his own blog?? (snif!) I am so proud!
June 12, 2009 at 11:40 pm
yeah and the background is all BLAAAACK.
hahahahha
June 12, 2009 at 11:48 pm |
cube, you really should be proud of wade. he’s trying to be just like you, but opposite.
June 13, 2009 at 5:03 pm |
That would be the Anti-Cube…the end is nigh…prepare for the end of days, WADEAGGEDEN is upon us.
Woe is We….
June 13, 2009 at 12:31 am |
Wow, you kids have been verrrry busy on here. Reminds of the old PM days.
Why heck, it’s times like these I remember what my day used to say:
June 13, 2009 at 12:32 am |
Oops *dad*
June 13, 2009 at 1:49 am |
Wow. Just got a chance to get back here and read the comments. How nice to see all my friends disagreeing so agreeably. Cube, you really should do this more often. By the way, WHERE ARE YOU???
Good to see you, PCL. Missed your friendly voice the last few days. Did your Dad really say all that?
Gotta go now and check out Wade’s blog. Is it really a black background? Probably picked it to go with his little black heart.
June 13, 2009 at 11:04 am |
In case you’ve been wondering, ATT has been hate fucking my internet. On a brighter note, my contacts finally went to shit and I had to get glasses. I have something funky in my eyeballs. And, I’m legally blind apparently without specs. So now, I look like a cross between Groucho and a pedophile.
There will be a show. I’m on with att now. I’m running at half warp speed, which is still fast. No contacts for a week and I get to wear what we defense attorneys like to call “The Diddlers.” Diddlers are those thick ass glasses most pedophiles seem to wear we notice. Anyways, I just have the umm… expensive pedophilia glasses. I’m sooooooo hot.
June 13, 2009 at 5:44 pm |
Just for you, Cube:
June 13, 2009 at 6:30 pm |
Sorry about your eyes though, Cube, hope it’s nothing serious–seriously.
June 13, 2009 at 1:00 pm |
Cube is destined to be the new Oliver Peoples in his next incarnation!
Meanwhile….In opposition to Rove, The VALID DHS report was immediately and vehemently rejected by numerous conservative commentators, such as Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, and David Asman, who portrayed it as an illegitimate and politically motivated assault on conservatives.
Following the Holocaust Memorial Museum attack, these commentators faced criticism for their earlier dismissiveness. Some have since unconvincingly (and in the case of Joe Scarborough, inaccurately) defended their past assessment, and a handful of reporters and analysts are still engaging in falsehoods and inconsistencies in criticizing the DHS report.
But on Fox News, Shepard Smith took a different position — for which he was attacked by conservatives — saying that the report: “was a warning to us all. And it appears now that they were right.”
The Proven valid DHS Report preceded the DC Shooting e.g. Kristallnacht or the Night of Broken Glass that was an anti-Jewish program in Nazi Germany on November 10, 1938. http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/kristallnacht/frame.htm
What say you Louis, et-al?
June 13, 2009 at 5:00 pm |
Im off tonite, soooooo, good lord willin’ and the creek don’t rise, I should be able to make it to your show tonite, Cube!
oh and by the way, just a warning, make sure you don’t post anything on WADE’S blog, because I do believe he would have your email addy then…not sure, but to be on the safe side….
but, still proud of the lil wanker…at least he is putting his angst to work and actually trying to organize his thoughts….its progress.
Good Job, WADE!
but your content is still sucky at best, very flush worthy, but hey…the site looks very nice, I see you chose the conspiracy layout, good choice, all things considered.
WhoooooHoooooooo, a bottle of wine, and all of thou!
June 13, 2009 at 5:33 pm |
Too late–I already posted on Wade’s blog. If he starts sending me evil emails, I will just have to send him to his room.
June 13, 2009 at 5:36 pm |
Bring on the Pinot!
June 13, 2009 at 5:45 pm
yeppers, got me some “greasyo” chillin as we speak…
June 13, 2009 at 6:26 pm
That’s my Texas!!
June 13, 2009 at 5:01 pm |
Shep come to the “dark side”.
We’ll love you for who you are!
LOL
June 13, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
So,
How many of you think the election in Iran is jacked with?
will they be counting hanging and dangling chads???
That could be wrong in just so many ways….
June 13, 2009 at 5:35 pm |
From what I have gathered, it does sound a little jacked–which could lead to hanging and dangling something (or someone), but I doubt it will be chads.
June 13, 2009 at 5:43 pm |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PCL!
maybe he’ll behave himself on his own blog…we can hope.
And you caught my drift on the chads dilly…I feel really sorry for the people in Iran, I think they really wanted something different, all those young people over there. Its going to be intresting, how this plays out.
I think, what they did, was switch the names on the votes…like its really the other guy with the high number of votes…and how did they count them so fast? weren’t they paper ballots?
June 13, 2009 at 6:27 pm |
Yeah, it just might get kinda ugly for the little guy over in Iran, this from NYT (yeah, I know Splash–that Liberal rag):
June 13, 2009 at 6:48 pm |
Awww, he’s alright. And he is really funny at times, too. Oh, and I almost forgot:
http://wadesayswhat.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/4/
He’s gonna plug mine and Splash’s blog once we get it going, so I plug his too.
June 13, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Who woulda thunk it…..
June 14, 2009 at 2:34 am |
the maryland hospital that took in farah pahlevi (sp?) after the revolution, listed her on the forms as :
name: Mrs. Pahlevi, occupation: unemployed widow.
June 13, 2009 at 9:17 pm |
Michelle –
Sorry I took so long to get back to you. You deserve better from one of the only Conservative you trust.
If you read Bachmann words, the actual quote and not all the liberal twists, they cannot mean anything other than: I want my constituency to be completely informed on this issue and what Washington is doing to us so that we can stand up and stop it.
Bachmann was talking about Cap and Trade for Christ’s sake. Tell me was Newt’s REVOLUTION and armed revolt? Was the Reagan REVOLUTION an armed revolt? Although revolution back in TJ’s day was done through battle right on up through the Civil War, but after that revolution is understood to take place at the BALLOT BOX and through pressure on your local representatives.
Only two types of people would see Bachmann’s words as pick up a gun and go shoot some motherfucker. Liberals like you who want to pluck four words from context so they can blame the next madman’s murder on their political opponent – a rather unconscionable, coldhearted and thoughtless affront to the surviving family by making a political tool of their tragic loss.
The other type would be the nut job that committed the heinous act who now, thanks to you and your first types, has an additional defense to clog up our courts and raise the cost of frying their sorry asses.
If you think that we should control free speech because some nut case might kill somebody then you really do not have a firm grasp on what freedom means. For example over dinner with friends you say “I would like to kill the man who invented clothes.” Next thing you know the man you saw sitting at the table next to you turns out to be Andrew Cunanan and ***BOOM*** there goes Gianni Versace. Further looks into Cunanan’s background reveal that he was a gay prostitute who preyed on older men and it is more than speculation 4 of his 5 vics were former clients.
Now – Is it your fault that this liberal wingnut snapped and went on this killing spree? Should we control the way you are aloud to voice or even choose your words. What words did J D Salinger write in Catcher in the Rye onto which you would allow Mark David Chapman to sluff some of the blame for killing John Lennon?
As far as YOUR hate speech, YOU and other liberals have broadened the definition to include “those who oppose my politics” which makes everything you have to say about your political opponents “hate-speech”. If you would like to rein in your definition back to actual hate then you and MSNBC are fine, but then so is Rush, Hannity, FOX etc. As far as MSNBC backing up their “reports” so does Rush; go to his web site. Everyday he puts all the sources for his show on his site. Rush and MSNBC are the same, just on opposite sides of the aisle. So they are either both hate speech or they are both not. Take your pic.
Love your guts.
June 14, 2009 at 2:01 am |
oh splash, you sound just like duc d’orleans moments before he wiped off his rouge and became philippe egalite’.
June 13, 2009 at 9:20 pm |
Bebe –
I never called the NYT a liberal rag. I said it was liberal mullet wrap. There is a difference. A subtle difference, but a difference non the less.
See y’all on the show!
June 13, 2009 at 9:30 pm |
Honey,
BITE ME!!!
And I can see the basis for our first battle already forming. (Shaking her head)
June 13, 2009 at 10:13 pm |
Splash, Newt and Reagan’s Revolutions were not framed with speech such as “armed and dangerous”….poor choice of words on her part, and especially bad on her part, because of what she is really trying to do with using such language. Its called pandering, but thats a tangent for a later time.
Your argument on hate speech is weak at best…and your example is also week. apples oranges sweetheart…
I do not have any issue with those that opposing views on politics or anything else, what I do take issue with, is the energy and intent behind the words. There are way too many falsehoods out there, being used and it just seems to beat the tempers of a few up into a frenzy.
If we are all taking responsibility for our actions, our activity of slinging rhetoric should be possibly called into play. We are not talking about just idle dinner conversation here, Splash. Im all for free speech, I enjoy that right quite liberally myself, but I have never spoken in the way that some do towards those that they do not agree with, you can try to frame me that way all you like, you can even see me that way, matters not to me, I know the direction Im coming from, and I know my intent.
And again, “Liberal like me”? Not even close my friend, you are painting me with the wrong bursh.
I don’t think either side should take part in such language, this should be filed under, “just because you can, maybe you shouldn’t”…its one thing to speak this way, in company that you know and trust, and that you realize you can take certain leeways in, and expound on certain topics, without pushing the envelope so far as to rip at the fiber of society. Speaking so freely in a mass situation…prolly ain’t such a good idea…ya neva know who’s listening…
Is this a notion of controlling free speech…maybe…is yelling FIRE in a crowded movie theater controlling speech? to an extent, yes…but for the better of all involved.
You had mentioned several “liberal talking heads”, well…I choose to file those types in the same can as the “rightwingnut talking heads”.
June 14, 2009 at 10:17 am |
bachman really meant to quote thoreau, but it accidently came out sounding like she said “armed and dangerous” followed by the word “revolution”.
June 13, 2009 at 10:57 pm |
Im all for free speech, I enjoy that right quite liberally myself, but I have never spoken in the way that some do towards those that they do not agree with, you can try to frame me that way all you like, you can even see me that way, matters not to me, I know the direction Im coming from, and I know my intent.
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You seem to think you know the intent of many others as well. Unfortunately it is something you can no more truly know than that their words were responsible for some goons actions. You did take Bachmann’s words out of context, you just don’t wish to admit it.
As far as the brush I’m painting you with, you don’t seem to like the independent you claim to be. Everything that comes out of your comments is left. What is that saying? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? Yeah-huh.
So, if I am hearing you left, and I think I am, you think that Bachmann’s free speech should be controlled (much the same as we disallow the yelling of fire in a theater) because some nutjob might decide to pick up a gun and shoot a democrat? Maybe everything we say should come with a disclaimer attachment.
And you do, under your own rewritten definition, use hate speech, but whether you do or not, and EVEN if you are a liberal, I still like you and there isn’t much you can do to change that, including not liking me. I will just smile the hate right out of your liberal self.
June 13, 2009 at 11:18 pm |
kinda hard th smile and hate something out that isn’t there in the first place, Splash…I never said I hated you or anyone…
I do feel as though my words are being slightly twisted, but hey…its all good. Its not so easy to convey ones ideas over the internet I have found.
see ya on the radio.
June 14, 2009 at 12:43 am |
That was my point. My twisting of your words is no different than your twisting of Bachmann’s
June 14, 2009 at 2:07 am |
so what you’re saying is that you want us to pretend that bachman is too much of a bimbo to know what she was saying in a prepared speech practiced over and over before her minions and family, then delivered on national televison.
June 14, 2009 at 3:38 am
Are you calling me a bimbo???
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
June 14, 2009 at 3:34 am |
No. What I am saying Louie, is that you are too much of a bonehead to be able to decipher what someone means in a clearly and concisely delivered message. You would rather use it O-botically to help out your guy at the expense of others.
June 14, 2009 at 3:40 am |
Guess Im a bonehead too….cuz I did take issue with what she said, on many levels!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Im a bonehead bimbo…I suppose there are worse things??
LOL
too funny…..
June 14, 2009 at 10:12 am
michelle,
omigod/mondieu-
you’re channeling michelle bachman….way too cool.
what’s it like inside there?
hahahahhaha
June 14, 2009 at 10:10 am |
I know splash,
we’re just fkn witch you.
bachman really meant armed and dangerous and revolution in an abstract, intellectual, figurative way, completely divorced from the armed and dangerous and revolution in the literal sense –
like what did in fact occur after she said that with such conviction and belligerance with that crazy look in her eyes.
……..just like she really didn’t mean that stuff about Obama concentration camps that neoclowns pretended to believe, right after she said that stuff.
June 14, 2009 at 10:43 am |
I have to confess that everytime bachman gets up there to say things that she doesn’t mean,
I sit back and imagine what she looks like naked.
I’m still working on tan line versus no tan line and the style of her bikini wax.
June 14, 2009 at 2:24 pm |
Maybe that’s why her eyes get all buggy–and here I thought it was because of the Botox overdose.
June 14, 2009 at 12:01 pm |
LOL. Louie. She is a nut and she has probably had both tan lines AND no tan lines at one point or another. But you are still a bonehead as I had to explain to you what MB meant even though you clearly had the educational capacity to do it yourself … or bought the cliff notes to her speech.
June 14, 2009 at 4:57 pm |
oh, yeah but when I said tan line vs. no tan line and style of bikini wax, I was just using bachmanisms and didn’t mean tan lines vs. no tan lines and style of bikini wax.
I meant the other definition of tan lines vs. no tan lines and style of bikini wax that doesn’t mean tan lines vs. tan lines and style of bikini wax.
see.
June 14, 2009 at 5:09 pm
LOL! Et nous venons plein cercle.
June 14, 2009 at 12:14 pm |
Yes there are worse things, Michelle. The good news is that boneheadedness is a reversable condition. All ya gotta do it unplug from the O-botic system and interpret what the opposition actually says sans twist. That’s it. Or you could take Jeremiah Peabody’s poly unsaturated quick dissolving fast acting pleasant tasting green & purple pills since all you really need is the placebo effect. Boneheaded O-boticism is a state of mind, all you need to do is decide not to participate, not to twist, not to spread untruthfulness.
You only twist Bachmann-type words to help The Big O, which is what makes you an O-bot (which may be incurable) It’s like hiding your kid from the police; it is wrong, but you feel you must. A lot of apologists did it for Billy Boy; it is no different for The Big O this go round. He’ll do everything W did in triplicate, but now, suddenly, it is all ok.
Inconsistency … a major characteristic of a bonehead … but it can be reversed. All ya gotta do is wanna.
June 14, 2009 at 2:24 pm |
I will get to you in a minute.
June 14, 2009 at 3:23 pm |
You know, honey, I remember you using those same type of words a long time ago. Hmmmm.
“As far as the brush I’m painting you with, you don’t seem to like the independent you claim to be.”
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Although I agree with many of your points as to the whole ‘hate’ speech thing, I take issue with the above statement to Michelle. If Michelle says she is an independent thinker, does not thinking exactly as you do mean she’s not? If she forms her own opinion based on how she interprets data, exclude her from being an independent thinker? To say otherwise could mean that you are influenced totally by the right’s biased punditry–and I KNOW that’s not true.
There is one thing I know about Michelle, her stand on the issues, right or wrong, is based on her own independent analysis of the issues.
Take a different tact, honey.
June 14, 2009 at 4:59 pm |
splash,
I was just fckn witch you again.
I think you’re full of shit.
but the other definiton of full of shit.
June 14, 2009 at 12:18 pm |
Louie – where are you on Bachmann’s choice of underwear? tight and twisted?
June 14, 2009 at 2:25 pm |
Come on, you know she’s got those grannie underwear going on.
June 14, 2009 at 1:24 pm |
Splash, I am not inconsistant. I continue to confuse the hell out of folks such as your self, thats pretty consistant in my book.
I’ll keep my bonehead bimbo statis, thanks…
The issue I have with Bachmann…several actually, but…instead of choosing the words, armed and dangerous, wouldn’t it have been better, and more “leader like” to use the words, informed and alert? How bout, educated and aware….I know..those just don’t carry the same punch, but it sure would have made her appear to be more legit and informed herself, rather than clamping onto buzz words that wake up a fear in some people.
She is a manipulator, and if you like that sort of thing…welllllllllll
June 14, 2009 at 3:02 pm |
I take issue with whoever gave you the status of ‘bonehead bimbo’. Am I gonna have to go back and read every little word here??? Dammit!!
On Bachmann. Of course she didn’t mean for people to take up arms; however, the first rule in public speaking is the same as writing an English 1A (or English Lit) paper–know your audience. Bachmann was merely pandering to her constituents, which says a lot about her TRUE thoughts of them. Yes, she wanted to get them fired up, and she used unsophisticated words in order to achieve that, I give her credit on her strategy. I give those constituents of hers no points for not seeing through said strategy and not being insulted by such manipulation.
However, I can’t include her in those who espouse ‘hate speech’. If she is doing that, then every politician is doing it. They all use the other side’s platform to get their own side revved up. Politics are no different than sports–each side uses whatever is in their arsenal to defeat the other side, and what’s in both sides’ arsenal these days is a weak economy, a scary world, biased punditry, and too many ignorant people.
Yes, she is a manipulator–a very transparent one at that.
June 14, 2009 at 5:01 pm |
bonehead bimbo must mean the other definiton of bonehead bimbo that means you don’t fall for neocon BS definitions.
June 14, 2009 at 3:51 pm |
My point exactly, PCL. You cannot redefine hate speech to include your opposition without including yourself no matter what side you are on.
I never called you a bimbo, Michelle. Just a bonehead (and only regarding politics). I would like to see you as an independent thinker as PCL insists that you are. However, some kids copy the work of their classmates and it is never more apparent than when the classmate they copied from gets an answer wrong. You ‘copied’ from O-botic programming that Bachmann was telling her constituents to pick up their guns and go kill a democrat(s).
Conclusion: O-bot.
Cure: Disconnect from motherboard.
Pre-op: You must want to.
There are signs of hope though, like your take on killing terrorist rather than torturing them for info. Although I would torture them, get info and THEN kill them, your take is a very good sign that we diagnosed your slight case of boneheaded-ness early enough; the prognosis is very, very good.
June 14, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
My point exactly, PCL. You cannot redefine hate speech to include your opposition without including yourself no matter what side you are on.
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This does not just apply to hate speech.
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I never called you a bimbo, Michelle
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No one said you did. Honey, I know you would never do that. Seriously.
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Love the little ‘disease’ synopsis.
Conclusion: Think like me, and you won’t be a bonehead–others might just say: we’re just gonna have to agree to disagree.
June 14, 2009 at 5:02 pm |
bachman wasn’t indulging in hate speech,
she was calling her groupies to go shoot security guards at museums.
June 14, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Doh Louie…
careful…you are approaching bimbo at 2 clicks
hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahha
and with all due respect….the guy didn’t have any notes in his car about her, but there were plenty in there about some of the other issues that get talked about on a daily basis….
things that make ya go hummmmmmmm?
June 15, 2009 at 12:58 am
he didn’t need notes. he had memorized whatever she said that wasn’t what she meant.
hahahahha.
June 14, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
For the record,
I labled myself as a bonehead bimbo…I kinda like it…LOL.
and I never said that Bauhmann was using hate speech, stupid speech maybe…but not hate, thats reserverd for rush and hannity types.
And I came up with that on my own, I do not recall the Obama administration addressing her words as a call to take up arms
IT WAS STUPID ON HER PART
and like I said in one of my first posts on this subject…SHE IS PANDERING to the scared flock.
and scaring them even more….that ain’t right.
Call me an Obot all you like….I got a few names for you too.
DONE!
June 14, 2009 at 4:35 pm |
LOL! I know you did–and you ARE NOT!!
Ahh new term ‘stupid speech’–I like it! And it DOES apply to her, but she is playing to her masses, as you did indeed say.
As for Rush and Hannity, I just call that biased punditry. Alhough it may seem like their crap incites some people, I think those it incites have to have the necessary ingredient of ‘mental illness’ to go overboard with it.
June 14, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Exactly, PCL…
those that act, are predisposed….
But the question should be raised, should we think more about what we are saying, before we say it…I don’t think that would hurt any of us… to think before we put the mouth in action.
That woman is just…just…….errrrggggggggg
I watched her on CSPAN the other day, railing some congress person, THAT SHE IS WORKING WITH IN COMMITTEE…railing on his ass, for doing something that she herself is doing….I just wanna say, sugar…step away from the camera, your moment has passed.
June 14, 2009 at 5:20 pm
According to my daddy, we should always think before we speak–that generation had all the rules down pat, what the hell happened?? Now everyone just goes all willy nilly and someone gets pissed or hurt or both.
The decline of humanity, eh Michelle? Just plant me in a small village in the South of France with my Pinot Noir, real butter, and some really fresh French bread–et vie est belle de nouveau.
PS: My thoughts on Bachmann: she’s dumb as a rock, an affront to feminity, and one hell of a poster-child for the dangers of Botox overdosage. And that, Splash honey, is NOT HATE speech–that is pure, unmitigated, rooted in facts, cattiness. And I own it. 😉
June 14, 2009 at 5:08 pm |
and PCL….I say, pantyhose sans underware on her…FOR SURE…
that will make anyone say stupid things…..
June 14, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
LOL!! Especially if she got a really bad wax job!!! Ewwwwww.
June 14, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
Michelle, I commented with you a tommy’s didn’t I?
BTW, ATT sucks.
June 14, 2009 at 5:33 pm |
Yes you did, sekanblogger!
Hi ya!
June 14, 2009 at 5:33 pm |
back in a few, time for a grocery store run…
PCL…meow baybay…meow….
=)
June 14, 2009 at 5:46 pm |
Don’t forget the chips. Oh and saw this in the NYT today:
June 14, 2009 at 6:03 pm |
Y’all are good, but you only call it stupid speech because you, I guess don’t mind standing idly by while the government finds every way to tax us into oblivion. Defend it and it is in fact O-botic, but even without defending it you are just following the herd over the cliff.
Unless, of course, you are going to actually pick up a gun and start shooting Libbies, and by that I mean of course voting them out in 2010.
And you did infer that Bachmann’s words were hate speech. You called it crazy, but assigned it the same responsibility for the actions of a loon that you did Rush and Hannity, who are only speaking hate when you dumb down the definition from what it actually is.
I do not agree that we need to watch what we say just because some wing nut might fly off the handle. If that were the case then we should all just STFU. As PCL (and later, Matt Lewis) said, we should address the real problem: Mental Illness. The Bachmann quote in question, regardless of her other statements, was well delivered, eloquent and echoed many great speeches before her by many great Americans.
So, maybe we should pass yet another regulation that requires the attachment of disclaimers to everything we say we say; it is not as though lawyers have enough money making opportunities already. Or how about just stamping all politicians with warning labels on their foreheadsalerting us that their words may be randomly hazardous to our health. Then who is next? Comics? Hollywood’s elite? [shutter] certain rock and roll legends???
And Bachmann, in all likelihood, wears whopper wear (granny panties) under those hose which makes any kind of waxing unnecessary, eebie and jeebie.
June 14, 2009 at 6:29 pm |
Okay, let’s not get carried away, honey. The day Bachmann comes even close to delivering an eloquent, great speech that deserves to be along the lines of other great American speeches is the day you will call yourself a Liberal. And there is nothing wrong with ‘thinking’ before one speaks–many a business deals have been made or broken over that very concept, as have love affairs.
That being said, although I agree Bachmann’s speech was not ‘hate speech’, I might have picked more sophisticated words than she did–but then I might want to attract a more sophisticated audience than she did. Still, I don’t hold her responsible for the mental cases in society that may go off on her words, she has know way of knowing who such individuals are. However, where does she stand on funding of research and treatment of mental illness? Ohh!! GOOGLE!!!
Honey, what did I tell you, in fact warn you, about that certain rock n’roll legend? Really? Are we gonna bring in that most perfect of human beings into this? Fine. Bring it–but come armed, because it will be DANGEROUS. I said come.
And there’s an idea–granny panties UNDER panty hose. Hmmmmm.
June 14, 2009 at 6:04 pm |
LOL! Cattiness. Yeah.
June 14, 2009 at 6:14 pm |
PCL –
Re the NYT article, do you think that the Conservaqtive movement is silent over the completely mislabeled “right winged” rage? Crime is crime and loons are loons regardless of how they interpret the world. These nuts would not become your average good taxpaying citizens if the Conservative outrage over the Liberal takeover of our country did not exist. They would still, in all likelihood, kill.
Time to treat the illness with medical attention. Politics can be treated at the ballot box and has, no?
June 14, 2009 at 6:44 pm |
Heheheh! If I come across an article that supports your argument, don’t you think I will post that, too? So stop your sniveling.
Now–open up that Conservative mind of yours and just try to see the possibility that maybe, just maybe there is something viable in what Rich is saying. I opened my, um mind, to let in the possibility that there was some validity in what you say on this subject, have I not? I agreed with you on some things.
Furthermore, this is not, let me repeat, this is not totally about Conservative outrage over the Liberal takeover of our country. This is how the human mind reacts to the very nature of ‘change’. This is about how some want the status quo. Unfortunately, progress only comes about through change. Some are just not of the progressive nature. Some are scared shitless of ‘change’ or even progress for that matter. And then there are some who will use that fear to further their own FEAR of change, because that change will, in fact, lead to their loss of power. Scary indeed–just look at what it is doing to Cheney.
Politics is always treated at the ballot box–and as I said before, candidates will use whatever is in their arsenal to exact that change–even the fear of ‘change’.
June 14, 2009 at 6:50 pm |
Yeah….what PCL said….
This is just not a black/white issue…its very much in a gray area…
Ive been saying this from the gitgo…thanks PCL for putting into words, what I cannot most of the time…
simpatico….gotta love it…but some may see it as mindlessness…LOL
June 14, 2009 at 7:33 pm |
Trust me, he is rearming himself probably at this very moment. He had better hurry up, though–the Finals are on about a half, and he doesn’t want to miss his Magic going down in flames. Heheheheh! KOBE rules!!!! Lakers Baby!!!!!
“Holiday Road! oh oh oh oh, Holiday Road! oh oh oh oh, Holiday Road! oh oh oh oh. Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, take a ride on the West Coast kick!” Gonna have to put that one in my ringtones–such a happy tune. Thanks Cube!
June 14, 2009 at 7:34 pm
See?
June 14, 2009 at 7:26 pm |
Bebe, it was just a question and yes, you are a great ref. I opened my mind, let it bounce around and it could not help but be rejected as flawed at its premise.
I understand the reaction to change, but this is the reaction to bad change. That is different and it IS Conservative even when felt by an independent.
And Michelle, you haven’t treated this as gray no matter how well PCL said it. Of course, if you are going to latch onto any sense of reason, you picked the right lady.
June 14, 2009 at 7:34 pm |
Is it any wonder? Thank you honey.
June 14, 2009 at 7:53 pm |
Splash, PCL’s sense of reason is a great companion to my own.
And I suspect, you see me through very limited eyes, or you have misunderstood what Im about from the beginning.
You have labeled me, as you see fit, you have even gone as far as to try and use my own words, to suit your twisted view of MY view…its ok…Im used to it, been done that way be the best of the twisters….
the label is in the eye of the beholder….I get that.
June 14, 2009 at 9:45 pm |
Michelle –
Your suspicion is unfounded as my observation of you is panoramic. They were, however, your words. I did not pull them out of context as you did Bachmann’s and they were not loaded with the imagery of our American beginnings as were Bachman’s; they were what they were.
If you don’t want labels then you need but shed them from your views. However, even if you don’t and remain an O-botically liberal independent Reagan Democrat, it was still just a debate in which you had (and still have) my utmost respect.
June 14, 2009 at 9:51 pm |
Must be half time.
You first, Splash, you shed your views, then I’ll do the same with mine.
Debate, but of course. Still see things through my own eyes though, and stand firmly with my words.
Labels and all.
June 14, 2009 at 9:55 pm |
[head hangin] go lakers.
June 14, 2009 at 9:56 pm |
I said head
June 14, 2009 at 10:03 pm |
I didn’t say shed your views, just shed the labels with which you are burying yourself by misrepresenting what those you oppose politically have to say. You can still have your views without doing that and thus shed the labels. It makes no difference to me if you do, but no matter how much you claim it doesn’t bother you, the attention you continue to give it begs to differ.
And it is beyond halftime and appears that the Lakers do, in fact, rule.
June 14, 2009 at 10:29 pm |
I don’t see how either of you need to shed your views.
However, and this is not aimed at either of you, occasionally when one has a strong view and is provided with info that is contrary to that view, it is difficult to give it up. Whether it be pride, tenacity, or sheer obstinacy, it is just hard to do. I said hard.
It takes a lot to look at an issue objectively to the point of changing one’s view on it–and when one does change their view, they are often ostracized over doing so, particularly where political views are concerned–just ask any Dem who voted in favor of the Iraq war.
Labels are a whole different can of worms–and anyone who knows me, knows I abhor labels and refuse to wear any of them.
Sorry honey, but the Lakers do rule. But there’s always The Gators.
June 14, 2009 at 10:54 pm |
Splash, Im only responding to you, would it be better for me to ignore you, and not readdress your posts?
Really, Im not bothered other than by someone putting me in a box…but as I said, no biggy, it happens.
Im just sitting back and following the thread, thats the objective, isn’t it?
First advise on how to adjust my thinking, now, are you attempting to tell me how I feel as well?
=) careful darlin’…
June 15, 2009 at 12:15 am |
Michelle –
Thanks for the warning. I will try to tip toe through your tulips. I was careful not to tell you how you feel; I simply gave evidence to the possibility of you being bothered; the need to warn me is yet more evidence of the same.
As far as my ‘advice’, self reflection will be up to you. I think it was pretty clear, even to you, that you take the opposing sides words (this time Bachmann) out of contest and use them to your sides political advantage. You’ve done it with Rush and Hannity too on other threads. All I was saying is that doing so emphasizes that your argument is too weak to be won without doing so. And your side doesn’t really need to do that where the GOP, and especially the Religious Right, is concerned.
And you DO have a side – a least a more dominant one, but if you prefer that I refer to you as an independent from now on I will affectionately call you Indy, okay?
June 15, 2009 at 12:16 am |
GOOooooooOOOOOOO GATORS!!!
June 15, 2009 at 12:31 am |
LoL Splash,
Indy is cute, but Im not sure if I qualify politically as an independent. I do mostly vote Dem. but I do share some conservative views, apparently we haven’t touched on many of those yet.
I said touch.
I can be a bit hardheaded, thats why the boneheadedness is so close to me. =) I don’t deny it. I have convictions, I know what I like, and I know what repulses me…I have a high tolerance for some things…and none at all for others…don’t think that is so different from anyone else.
I won’t deny, that alot of the opposing sides words, do set me back, some on the left have also, but those don’t seem to hit me quite the same way…conditioning? you’ll think so…me, I haven’t decided the common denominator yet, but its a line crossed, Im sure of it.
I have a streak about me, and I know you like “surrender”….lol good luck, many have tried, and failed…don’t take it so hard…
I said hard….
Splash, you know I love ya man…my blogbro and all….but you are a lil mind game playa….with all due respect of course, and the utmost of affection.
June 15, 2009 at 12:33 am |
Splash….can we move forward, dear?
June 15, 2009 at 12:36 am |
Oh and almost forgot to address…
warning? only that you were dancing with control issues….nothing threatening ment…
didn’t you see the smile?? was mostly in jest….
LOL
June 15, 2009 at 12:45 am |
LOL!! Sure, we can move on. And although asking permission is a form of surrender, I find surrender boring and thus our debate invigorating. And for the record … we have touched on things conservative, I just chose to ignore them here. They didn’t seem to apply, Indy. I know you would just a soon kill terrorists than waterboard them, for example.
I new you were joking by the darling and … THAT”S a smile?!?!? LOL!
So where do we all go from here? Hmmm.
June 15, 2009 at 12:49 am |
How The Magic lost to the Lakers.
June 15, 2009 at 12:49 am |
Heheheheh!!!
June 15, 2009 at 12:50 am |
The Zen wins again–The Magic are but mere grasshoppers.
June 15, 2009 at 12:49 am |
Well play with the possibilities….
surrender, huh?
NEVA!
hahahahahahhahaha
Lets speak of killing terrorists and the death penality…shall we?
take it to the dark side…the under belly so to speak…
oh what to do with such sorts…
I like the light switch approach in dealing with clearly guilty folk, clean and simple
OFF
bubuy.
June 15, 2009 at 12:52 am |
Michelle, did I tell you that Splash recently referred to me as a terrorist?
June 15, 2009 at 12:54 am
“Scuse me”?
he did???
will this cause him to choke again? that was just quite so funny….
June 15, 2009 at 12:55 am
And I don’t practice any religion, let alone Islam.
June 15, 2009 at 12:52 am |
Congrats PCL
How sweet it is…
Htown had a couple of good runs a few years back, was a good time to be had by all…
and we beat the Magic too I believe, sweep sweep sweep…
So, who’s ya daddy, Kobe????
hahahhahahahahhaha
sorry, Kobe is a brat….lol
imho
June 15, 2009 at 12:54 am |
I agree, Kobe is a brat–but man can he play the hoops!!!! Besides, it’s all Jackson–he’s just got the touch with coaching.
Funny, The Magic didn’t learn anything from getting swept then? Well, maybe they will learn something from this time. LOLOLOLOL!!!!
June 15, 2009 at 12:56 am
Honey, I’m just kidding.
June 15, 2009 at 12:55 am |
get out da broom….turn out the lights….
love me some Bball….
god I miss those games…
June 15, 2009 at 12:58 am |
Now there’s an idea–we can all get together for a game of hoops to settle our differences. And afterwards, we can do as Cube has often suggested: go to a bar and drink and see who beats the shit out of who. LOL!
June 15, 2009 at 12:58 am
hahahahahahahahaha
sounds like a plan
June 15, 2009 at 12:57 am |
are all terrorists islamic?
wondering…
June 15, 2009 at 12:59 am |
I am pretty convinced that Splash was not talking about me being that kind of terrorist–but I could be wrong.
June 15, 2009 at 12:56 am
lol
nahhhhhhh
he wouldn’t
?
?
June 15, 2009 at 1:01 am
Oh yeah he would.
June 15, 2009 at 1:00 am |
Actually, I’m sure there’s all kinds of terrorists–we obviously have our own homegrown ones over here, as do other countries.
June 15, 2009 at 1:02 am
true that
has to be a gene outta wack or something
LOL
what makes a person…go there.
June 15, 2009 at 1:03 am
Who knows? Extremism and the end product of it.
June 15, 2009 at 1:04 am |
are all the terorrists islamic??????,
hmmmm….. only the ones that are muslim.
June 15, 2009 at 1:06 am
Bonsoir, Louis.
June 15, 2009 at 12:59 am |
Ive always been a watcher…not so much the player anymore
love to be at the games though
such a rush
June 15, 2009 at 1:02 am |
Okay, let’s go into training. We could kick their asses.
June 15, 2009 at 1:02 am
At the least, we can outrun them.
June 15, 2009 at 1:03 am |
hahahahahahhahahahah
June 15, 2009 at 1:05 am |
I think we will see alot more studys, on society coming in the next few years, there is surely a shift, and a new set of possibilities out there, for what society has to offer in the way of types of folks out there…
June 15, 2009 at 1:07 am |
Society needs a makeover, big time!
June 15, 2009 at 1:07 am |
It’s about time.
I was bored with the ususal late 20th century types that we’ve had now for so long.
June 15, 2009 at 1:24 am
Agreed–I want a change, more hedonism!!!
June 15, 2009 at 1:06 am |
hey what are y’all doing up so late?
———–
sniff, …..I destroyed another lawn mower this weekend.
the second one this summer,
damned cypress knees……….
June 15, 2009 at 1:08 am |
LOL! How is your garden doing, Louis?
June 15, 2009 at 1:07 am |
You ladies are funny funny funny.
June 15, 2009 at 1:09 am |
Now do tell, honey–what was the reason you called me a terrorist again? You know I don’t always remember everything. LOL!
June 15, 2009 at 1:11 am
You said you had lots of patience, Bebe. All I did was ask if you knew who else had lots of patience. ButI was sure that the answer was purely coincidental.
June 15, 2009 at 1:12 am
pcl
you have a new icon
what’s that a picture of,
it’s too small for me to be able to tell
June 15, 2009 at 1:16 am
Louie, it is the Eiffel Tower and quite phallic.
June 15, 2009 at 1:25 am
Ahhh that’s right. But you still called me a terrorist, honey.
June 15, 2009 at 1:26 am
It’s the miniture Eiffel at Paris in Vegas, a shot taken from the Bellagio.
June 15, 2009 at 1:26 am
Yes, it is phallic, isn’t it? Wonder what or who I was thinking of when I chose it.
June 15, 2009 at 1:30 am
I merely made a an observational comparison of a single characteristic you had that was shared by, among others, terrorists …
… and I believe you water boarded me for the offense, no?
June 15, 2009 at 1:31 am
I don’t.
Wonder, I mean.
June 15, 2009 at 1:58 am
Damn!! Has Clooney been talking again? Damn actors, always practicing their damn lines! 😉
June 15, 2009 at 1:07 am |
LoL Louie….
prolly not up for much longer here…
June 15, 2009 at 1:09 am |
well I’m all fresh now, took a nap all afternoon.
June 15, 2009 at 1:08 am
fresh as a dasiy
June 15, 2009 at 1:08 am |
tada!
June 15, 2009 at 1:08 am |
Speaking of choking, man did the Magic.
June 15, 2009 at 1:11 am |
Not even the Heimlich Maneuver could have saved them.
June 15, 2009 at 1:12 am
You said lick. Heimlich; youdo that from behind, right?
June 15, 2009 at 1:14 am
No honey, you do.
June 15, 2009 at 1:17 am
LOL! Right. I do.
June 15, 2009 at 1:20 am
I know you do.
June 15, 2009 at 1:21 am
And no self respecting French Socialist Lady would be a terrorist. See Bebe, I told you the answer was coincidental.
June 15, 2009 at 1:25 am
Okay, that went right in the wrong place!
June 15, 2009 at 1:26 am
And THAT sounded like a personal performance problem! Geez!! LOL!!!
June 15, 2009 at 1:09 am |
yeah, Splash…they funny that way….
June 15, 2009 at 1:10 am |
any of y’all post on wade’s site yet?
June 15, 2009 at 1:11 am |
I did, Louis. He was nice, in his usual twisted way.
June 15, 2009 at 1:11 am |
not I said the cat….
June 15, 2009 at 1:11 am |
I think PCL has. Have you?
June 15, 2009 at 1:12 am |
Oh sonva bitch, I can’t keep up with this. Yes I did. WADE is a nice boy. LOL!
June 15, 2009 at 1:14 am |
there is the possibility that he’ll get your home email address and send you notices and diatribes.
I still get Bertha and Fkergolen (sp?) from years ago.
June 15, 2009 at 1:15 am
Well, that may be–but emails have return addresses, so I will send him some REALLY interesting literature, all written in French.
June 15, 2009 at 1:13 am |
LOL
June 15, 2009 at 1:14 am |
Seriously, I think WADE is between 20 and 30 years old. A baby!!
June 15, 2009 at 1:16 am
you’re sure he’s even an adult,
look at his vocabulary, it’s pubescent.
June 15, 2009 at 1:15 am |
I really can’t see myself commenting to wade.
hahahahhahah
June 15, 2009 at 1:18 am
Yeah, I felt like I was robbing the cradle or something–and I do that enough as it is.
June 15, 2009 at 1:23 am
Oh, for shame!
June 15, 2009 at 1:33 am
Really? I kinda like it. I love em younger.
June 15, 2009 at 1:38 am
And no one could be happier about it.
June 15, 2009 at 1:44 am
I know I am pretty damn happy about it.
June 15, 2009 at 1:50 am
;-)>
June 15, 2009 at 1:15 am |
he is pretty young…he used to type under a different name back in the straw poll days…
closer to 20..
June 15, 2009 at 1:17 am |
I agree michelle,
different age groups use slightly different vocabulary, semantics and syntax.
June 15, 2009 at 1:20 am
He had a moment of normalicy some time ago, shared some personal facts, I do remember him being quite young…then we went back to the dance….lol
June 15, 2009 at 1:17 am |
I can hear it now, PCL
COMMIE BASTARD PINKO SCUM !!
June 15, 2009 at 1:18 am |
I pointed out to him that I was French, and no self-respecting French could be anything but a socialist.
June 15, 2009 at 1:22 am
pcl,
you should move here then, Louisiana is a completely socialist state.
it works for us.
I even have neoclown friends who complain about their fear of socialised health care -before, after and during their heart surgeries at the local state run “charity” hospital.
hahahhaha—-
and all the people who complain about welfare wouldn’t dream of having a maid who wasn’t on welfare, otherwise they’d have to pay the difference in salary.
ahahahha
June 15, 2009 at 1:28 am
I would love to move there, Louis–change is good. I love change. And I would be changing earthquakes for hurricanes–cool.
June 15, 2009 at 1:33 am
hurricanes are cool, those parties are the best.
you just don’t want to run out of water and have to break into a liquor store.
June 15, 2009 at 1:34 am
Water is fine, but wine is devine.
June 15, 2009 at 1:19 am |
you forgot socialist marxist————-hahahha
oh wait-stop!
I just remembered that my favorite neoclown post was the one about obama’s mother attending a
“high school that was a hot bed of marxism.”
hahahhahaahahh
June 15, 2009 at 1:22 am
LMAO!!! Don’t tell me–La Sorbonne? LOLOLOL!!!
June 15, 2009 at 1:18 am |
hahahaha PCL
June 15, 2009 at 1:21 am |
yeah, those damned highschools…
June 15, 2009 at 1:22 am |
Especially if they have uniforms.
June 15, 2009 at 1:28 am
they do have uniforms-
hip hugging onion skin jeans and sandals with midrifts and tattoo just above the butt crack, heavy liquid eyeliner and dyed black hair.
evidently you get thrown out of school if you try to dress differently.
June 15, 2009 at 1:31 am
LOL!!! I’d be gone by noon.
June 15, 2009 at 1:22 am |
And, of course, no self respecting French Socialist Lady would be a terrorist. So see Bebe, I told you the answer was coincidental.
June 15, 2009 at 1:30 am |
You say that now, honey. But I let you off the hook, didn’t I?
June 15, 2009 at 1:34 am
I believe you water boarded me for the offense. Wasn’t that the choking incident? or was that something else? My offenses run together. You must have let me off the hook because, like water boarding, there was no permanent damage as far as I can tell.
June 15, 2009 at 1:37 am
LOL! I don’t believe in torture, remember? Other than the silent treatment.
June 15, 2009 at 1:40 am
Yes, I remember. The ST nearly kilt me dead.
June 15, 2009 at 1:42 am
If I wanted to kill you honey, you would be dead–I can carry the ST on for days!
June 15, 2009 at 1:43 am
May you never feel the need, Bebe.
June 15, 2009 at 1:45 am
I’m sure I won’t–it would take a tremendous amount of pain for me to do that.
June 15, 2009 at 1:47 am
Really? Then I must second my own statement.
June 15, 2009 at 1:52 am
Which one?
June 15, 2009 at 2:01 am
May you never feel the need.
June 15, 2009 at 2:11 am
I’m sure I won’t, honey.
June 15, 2009 at 1:25 am |
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
“SORBONNE”-
stop!
stop that!
ahahahah
that was very funny.
Our college professors ususally go there, but you can tell from their research they only ran around paris drinking with other people from louisiana.
June 15, 2009 at 1:33 am |
Louis, who doesn’t run around Paris drinking? It is against the law to do otherwise–do you think the French want to be like Americans? Mon dieu!
June 15, 2009 at 1:35 am |
Did I mention that I LOVE French women?
June 15, 2009 at 1:39 am
You’d better.
June 15, 2009 at 1:52 am
Aggressive. Ooo la la!
June 15, 2009 at 1:52 am
Didn’t you mention you like it rough? LOL!
June 15, 2009 at 2:01 am
Yes, but I didn’t have to.
June 15, 2009 at 2:11 am
No, you didn’t.
June 15, 2009 at 1:37 am |
I know the french here drink ALOT,
one of the drive thru daquiri shops burned down this week and it made the news.
June 15, 2009 at 1:39 am
The French here drink ALOT too–but it is strictly wine, and look, it’s healthy now! LOL!
June 15, 2009 at 1:52 am
that’s wot I heard——red wine….
probably a rumour started by the dry cleaner’s association.
LOL
June 15, 2009 at 1:53 am
Damn dry cleaners–this is why they always got iced!
June 15, 2009 at 1:28 am |
creatures of comfort…
June 15, 2009 at 1:29 am |
y’all ever see a map of roman paris?
the streets are still the same.
that plaza ringed by restaurants near the post office by the sarbonne was the roman forum.
June 15, 2009 at 1:31 am |
nothing says marxist like heavy liquid eyeliner.
June 15, 2009 at 1:32 am |
And nothing says socialist like dark dark sunglasses. Jackie O was really a socialist–a Kennedy secret, oh my!
June 15, 2009 at 1:31 am |
many boots on that land
June 15, 2009 at 1:32 am |
is that like goth?
June 15, 2009 at 1:34 am |
nite y’all
much love…
June 15, 2009 at 1:35 am |
Nite Michelle, backatcha!
June 15, 2009 at 1:35 am |
yeah, they do sorta look goth, but without the severe push up bra that makes your boobs look like they’re on a platter.
June 15, 2009 at 1:37 am |
LOL!! Madonna bras.
June 15, 2009 at 1:51 am |
You still see people wearing those gaultier/madonna bras during holidays………they’ve entered the cultural landscape.
hahahhaha
June 15, 2009 at 1:36 am |
oh gee, I’m left alone to contemplate jackie O’s socialism.
June 15, 2009 at 1:38 am |
Freaky, eh Louis?
June 15, 2009 at 1:47 am |
pcl,
oh this thread is getting tooo long, I just saw the post about my garden from waaayyyyy up there.
…………just ripped out all that tired green colored foliage and did the perimeter hedge in yellow variagated ginger and red iresene (the kind that gets BIG), and interspersed some split leaf philodrendron.
changing the ground cover to purple reina morada….etc.
June 15, 2009 at 1:51 am |
Oh Louis, your garden sounds so beautiful. I have so much work to do in mine, and I have to do it this week–graduation party next weekend for my daughter. My ferns need pruning and my fountains need a purge. It will get done–and my hands will suffer. Got Baby Tears for ground cover–easy maintenance.
June 15, 2009 at 1:57 am
wear gloves———-that dirt has things in it!
decades of chemicals all over the yard,
got a chemical burn on one of my fingers now- from a bag of dirt.
June 15, 2009 at 2:05 am
Seriously? I have gloves, and normally wear them–put there are times when I need my nails for weeds.
June 15, 2009 at 1:49 am |
walmart had blue birds of paradise on sale……….incredible.
June 15, 2009 at 1:55 am |
Blue ones? I have never seen those (even in the tropics), I imagine they’re beautiful.
June 15, 2009 at 2:00 am
they’re white and bright blue with a sliver of orange.
the flowers keep opening in line like a vine.
they grow into trees.
June 15, 2009 at 2:13 am
Do you know what region they do well in? I would love to get a couple of those–they sound beautiful.
June 15, 2009 at 1:54 am |
I have a productive low maintenance garden in the produce section of my local supermarket.
June 15, 2009 at 1:56 am |
LOL!! Really? Well, that will save your hands and back–gardening is tough.
June 15, 2009 at 2:14 am
I have plenty of other uses for my hands.
June 15, 2009 at 1:58 am |
I can’t believe we used to grow our own food right into the 80s.
June 15, 2009 at 2:01 am
You mean you yourself or the nation as a whole–cause I don’t think we’re doing that as a nation anymore, though it baffles me as to why not.
June 15, 2009 at 2:03 am
we, as in the people who lived on our farm.
June 15, 2009 at 2:08 am
Ahhh. That’s right, I remember you mentioning something about a farm at one time. Well, I don’t have the room to grow all my own food–but I do well with tomatoes, lettuce, onions, garlic, bell peppers, and grapes. But this year, the lack of rain has prompted some communities to volunteer to cut back on water–so I have and I have had to cut back on my veggie garden to do that.
June 15, 2009 at 1:58 am |
I wore a fig leaf once. A really big one.
June 15, 2009 at 2:02 am |
I can only imagine. Oh wait . . .
June 15, 2009 at 2:05 am
LO[fucking]L!!
June 15, 2009 at 2:02 am |
stop!
, the fig tree was where the neighborhood would go to have sex when we were kids.
hahahah
it was like a dome inside.
June 15, 2009 at 2:04 am |
LMAO!! Louis you have got to have had the most interesting life I have ever heard about!! You should write a book–I can’t think of anyone who exudes the philosophy of joie de vivre better than you.
June 15, 2009 at 2:04 am |
Isn’t that where the Keebler Elves lived?
June 15, 2009 at 2:03 am |
That’s what Louie was talkin’ ’bout!
June 15, 2009 at 2:04 am |
Mmmm cookies.
June 15, 2009 at 2:04 am |
you have to make sure you’re not allergic to fig tree leaves.
most people are……….always made me wonder why they chose a fig leaf for that on statues…..
June 15, 2009 at 2:07 am |
So that’s what caused all the little red blotches!
June 15, 2009 at 2:09 am
No, that was a STD.
June 15, 2009 at 2:10 am
I like so felt that coming.
June 15, 2009 at 2:11 am
I said come.
June 15, 2009 at 2:05 am |
you ought a hear some of my cousins, they are waaaayyyyy out there.
June 15, 2009 at 2:10 am |
You should hear some of mine, Louis–they are just mean.
June 15, 2009 at 2:12 am |
Are you close with your cousins, Louis?
June 15, 2009 at 2:31 am |
yeah some of them.
not like it used to be.
June 15, 2009 at 2:12 am |
Gotta sleep. ‘nite Bebe. Good night Louie.
June 15, 2009 at 2:14 am |
Good nite, honey. Talk to you tomorrow.
June 15, 2009 at 2:12 am |
Good nite John Boy.
June 15, 2009 at 2:33 am |
okay, once again, I’m left alone to contemplate jackie O’s socialism….
June 19, 2009 at 11:49 pm |
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June 20, 2009 at 8:41 pm |
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